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Ep. #1061: Pelican

Trevor Shelley de Brauw from Pelican is here to discuss the band’s album, Flickering Resonance, our history of working together because of his role in music publicity, the city of Chicago’s music dynamism, a brief foray into North Carolina farming, how guitar teachers underestimate Ramones songs, seeing significant shows at Fireside Bowl as a teenager, the antagonistic antics of Tusk, where Pelican came from and why its original line-up reunited, why I think every band should break up so they can miss the band and then appreciate it more when it gets back together, temporality and self-awareness, working as a music publicist, the future of Pelican, and much more! A note that since Trevor and I recorded this interview, Run For Cover released a new EP by Pelican called Ascending on January 23, 2026.

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Ep. #928: Verböten

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Jason Narducy is here with remarkable stories about the magical return of his childhood band Verböten, their new album, and opening for Frank Black at the Metro in Chicago on January 25 and 26, 2025, being in the KISS Army, playing R.E.M. songs with Michael Shannon in Athens, Georgia, with actual members of R.E.M., singing at a Chicago Bulls game and later encountering Michael Jordan up close, knowing Steve Albini and their final meaningful interaction at Steve’s studio, Electrical Audio, playing songs just added to Superchunk sets, punk rock lyricism, touring the R.E.M. project again, other future plans, and much more.

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Ep. #904: Mac McNeilly from The Jesus Lizard

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The Jesus Lizard Week ’24  is still going with Mac McNeilly discussing the Jesus Lizard’s new album RACK, building a home studio, navigating how political correctness and being decent to other people works, his interest in preserving vintage drums and teaching music students, why he left the Jesus Lizard when he did and why he came back, the stamina and fitness it takes to play drums in this band, how he came up with his parts on RACK, touring again, other future plans, and much more.  

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