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Ep. #1061: Pelican

Trevor Shelley de Brauw from Pelican is here to discuss the band’s album, Flickering Resonance, our history of working together because of his role in music publicity, the city of Chicago’s music dynamism, a brief foray into North Carolina farming, how guitar teachers underestimate Ramones songs, seeing significant shows at Fireside Bowl as a teenager, the antagonistic antics of Tusk, where Pelican came from and why its original line-up reunited, why I think every band should break up so they can miss the band and then appreciate it more when it gets back together, temporality and self-awareness, working as a music publicist, the future of Pelican, and much more! A note that since Trevor and I recorded this interview, Run For Cover released a new EP by Pelican called Ascending on January 23, 2026.

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Ep. #1060: Motherhood

Brydon Crain, Adam Sipkema, and Penelope Stevens from Motherhood are here to discuss their January 2026 shows in the Canadian Prairies, their latest album Thunder Perfect Mind, university courses, music school, and religious studies, spiritual and musical communities, Penny’s time in Vietnam and observations about communism, the story of Motherhood, how I think my son is trying to be better at life than me, the band’s Deerhoof connections, fantastical aspects of Motherhood’s music and the sci-fi themes on their latest album, their other bands like Sam Salmon and Penny & The Pits, future plans, and much more!

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