André Ethier and Sandro Perri discuss their new album Further Up Island, cows and music, Bone Machine by Tom Waits, recording technology, Bob Dylan, Will Oldham, musical trilogies, promotional interview gimmickry, Destroyer, online life, future plans, and much more! Supported by you on Patreon, Blackbyrd Myoozik, Pizza Trokadero, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad’s Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S. and Black Women United YEG. Follow vish online.