Florence Shaw and Lewis Maynard discuss their band Dry Cleaning and brilliant 2022 LP, Stumpwork, the ozone layer hole above New Zealand, being a busy bassist, becoming the unlikely lead lyricist and singer in a band, how grief galvanized the band, family dynamics and a tortoise named Gary, good advice from Duran Duran, endless touring, new songs, other future plans, and much more. Supported by you on Patreon, Blackbyrd Myoozik, Pizza Trokadero, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad’s Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S. and Black Women United YEG. Follow vish online.