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Ep. #1127: Black Duck and Elena Setién

Elena Setién and Black Duck’s Bill MacKay and Douglas McCombs are here to discuss their self-titled debut album, their history as collaborators, Douglas’ recent travels with Tortoise, BASIC, and Yr Knives, the role improvisation and composition plays in their respective and collaborative work, the significance of musical intuition and listening, why Elena was keen to learn more about Native American and Indigenous history and how her lyrics may reflect that knowledge, thoughts about their next record together, which I may or may not be executive producing, upcoming shows, other future plans, and much more.

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Ep. #1026: Tortoise

Dan Bitney and Douglas McCombs from Tortoise are here to discuss their new album Touch, Dan being the lone band member I’d never interviewed before now, living in Chicago under fascism, how they met because of one of Dan’s earlier bands, how Touch was made with only two bandmates living in the same city, writing some of the shortest Tortoise songs ever, leaving Thrill Jockey for International Anthem/Nonesuch, Douglas’ many other bands and upcoming releases, the stunning cover art for Touch, touring, other future plans, and much more.

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