Joe Casey discusses the new Protomartyr album, Formal Growth in the Desert, selling his childhood home and losing his mother and other family members, music-making viability in a pandemic, having his home repeatedly burglarized and deeper societal issues, misinformation and disinformation, the Detroit Tigers and funny lyrics in dark arrangements, the Wu-Tang Clan, tour dates, other future plans, and much more. Supported by you on Patreon, Blackbyrd Myoozik, Pizza Trokadero, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad’s Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S. and Black Women United YEG. Follow vish online.