Bret McKenzie goes deep on the making of his solo debut, Songs Without Jokes, growing up a music fan in Wellington, New Zealand, writing serious songs that are still funny, sharp songwriters and a 1980s vibe, his killer studio band, Dire Straits and the War on Drugs, global warming and the pandemic, lightening up, Flight of the Conchords updates, tour dates, other future plans, and more. Supported by you on Patreon, Pizza Trokadero, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad’s Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S. and Black Women United YEG. Follow vish online.