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Ep. #187: Mike Sacks on David Letterman

Mike Sacks is a respected journalist and humour writer whose work has appeared in many of America’s top periodicals. He’s a member of the editorial staff at Vanity Fair and has written three books including two acclaimed and mind-blowing interview collections, 2009’s And Here’s the Kicker: Conversations with 21 Humor Writers About Their Craft and 2014’s Poking a Dead Frog: Conversations with Today’s Top Comedy Writers. With David Letterman’s retirement as a TV talk show host imminent, it seemed like a good time to gain more insight about what this means for comedy so here, Mike and I discuss Brooklyn and My Little Pony, attending one of the last tapings of the Late Show with David Letterman, growing up with Dave, watching and taping Letterman as a kid and then reciting his jokes to other kids, observing Reese Witherspoon and fakery, encountering Letterman after the taping, the end of an era and connecting with someone, real time and in the moment with great TV, attending a Letterman taping and seeing all the behind-the-scenes stuff, Norm Macdonald’s amazing tribute to Dave this past Friday night, Letterman’s impact on comedy and kids who watched him and acted and spoke like him, a Letterman bias, Merrill Markoe’s tremendous role on Late Night with David Letterman, Dave admitting that he’s been outta the loop the last few years, coasting, NBC to CBS, Letterman’s stunt-free power and great interviewing skills, Jay Leno, Jon Stewart, and Stephen Colbert, silence and listening, how the world of comedy views Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon, subversive comedy lives on the radio and in podcasts, Scharpling, Wurster, and the Best Show, 12:35 AM versus 11:35 PM, Leno’s edginess, Conan O’Brien was pushing the envelope even on the Tonight Show, the tempering of Letterman’s show at CBS, the resilience of the late night TV talk show format, tradition, the dullness of certain interviews as opposed to real talk, Letterman says he might do a podcast, what will happen to TV and comedy when Letterman leaves, youthification, historical comedy, the greatness of Poking a Dead Frog, writing a crime book and/or collaborating on a comedian’s memoir, not chasing a Letterman interview, the Harry Shearer versus The Simpsons fiasco, Letterman’s final episodes feature Tom Hanks, Eddie Vedder, Bill Murray, and Bob Dylan, predicting what the final episode will consist of, anyone can do anything but not everyone can do everything, @michaelbsacks, and that’s all kids.

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Ep. #174: Andy Kindler

Andy Kindler is a stand-up comedian from New York City who is currently based in Los Angeles. Best known for frequent appearances as himself on the Late Show with David Letterman and recurring acting roles on Everybody Loves Raymond, Maron, and Bob’s Burgers, Kindler is a hard-working road comic who fearlessly assesses and critiques the comedy industry, both in his act and in his annual ‘State of the Industry” address at the Just for Laughs Festival in Montreal. Kindler will be performing at the Park Theatre in Winnipeg on Friday March 27 and here, we discuss my amazing guest introductions, milk and green apples and voice over auditions, Bob Dylan doesn’t drink water on-stage, Marco Rubio was thirsty and terrible, the red button is over, Jimmy Fallon’s viral videos, Ricky Gervais really is that David Brent character, fundamental atheism, interacting with Gervais once on Letterman, thinking about Robin Williams, Dane Cook and Hitler, how David Letterman has kept it real and Jimmy Fallon might be a phony, the pretentiousness of Louis C.K., the sanctimony of Jon Stewart, defending and enhancing the art of comedy, wanting to be loved and laughed at, satisfaction, the ‘I’ve-gotta-make-it’ phase of being in show business, bumping into each other once at SXSW, his connection to music and the Hold Steady, some of Andy’s hit singles, Adam Levine and Coldplay, loving the National, Steve Earle, Elvis Costello, and some other white people, liking soul music, contemplating David Letterman’s retirement, Dave’s demeanour before and after the heart surgery, Dave probably doesn’t really want to retire, Stephen Colbert will be amazing, being a true curmudgeon, what’s happening on the third season of Maron, appearing with Dave Anthony and Marc in Maron scenes, voicing Mort on Bob’s Burgers, Andy’s new special Hence, the Humour, Innerspace and All of Me, Marc Maron should return my calls, and that was that.

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